When their first album was released a couple of years back, Placebo seemed to be the shot of adrenalin that the British music scene needed. Here was a band who had songs that married a knowledge of the past with an awareness of the future and, in Brian Molko, a mouthy, marketable frontman who ensured that the band got the press coverage that it needed to get their abrasive post-goth noisepop into the charts.
But then it all seemed to go a bit wrong - tales of tour excess and some ill-advised quotage from Brian tipped the balance away from Placebo the band. Brian filled the void left by Richie Manics disappearance as the pop star who made it okay to be fucked up and wear badly-applied eyeliner.
"It detracts from the music, its very boring and it places a great deal of undue pressure on me, which I resent," complains Brian. "I think at one point we became cartoon character versions of ourselves, and the impression was that Placebo was my backing band. I am mainly responsible for it and were doing everything possible to correct that situation. In many ways it felt like I was Dr Frankenstein and Id made this monster that was running around the village killing people and theres basically nothing you can do about it. But the villagers are the journalists and theyre all fired up, and in the end theyre their own lynching party. I would question whether its actually me and what I believe in thats been the significant factor in being lynched. I think that it could be any one of a number of other people and the same kind of vitriol would still be there".
As for the obsessive fans, those beautiful losers who dance badly at your local indie disco, he continues, "Ive been quoted in the past as being quite nasty towards people who have chosen to model themselves aesthetically after me, but I think to a certain degree my comments were misconstrued. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and Im certainly flattered by it - its kind of part of the reason why I cut my hair, you have to stay one step ahead of your clones but I certainly dont harbour any nastiness. I simply find it strange that people want to model themselves on somebody who doesnt feel very secure in themselves anyway".
But now theyre back, with a new album, a slightly deeper sound and a part in Michael Stipes Glam Rock flick Velvet Goldmine. The glam tag is something that Placebo feel a little uncomfortable with. "I think were a long way from being influenced by anything that really truly is glam," argues Brian. "When I discovered Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars to me it was a great rock album and it created a kind of trampoline onto bands like Iggy & The Stooges and The Velvet Underground. Glam for me is things like Gary Glitter and The Sweet, essentially lager louts in their mothers underwear. We had a lot of you are in Velvet Goldmine, therefore you must be a Glam band, which demonstrates a certain lack of depth. Were not trying to revive Glam in any way."
"I think well leave that to Marilyn Manson," grins unfeasibly tall bassist Stefan.
New album Without You Im Nothing is certainly not Glam. Where Placebo was a hedonistic rush through pick-up joints, massage parlours and sex with machines, this is a slightly more introspective album, the sound of a band who have toured and matured together.
"The title of the album works on several different levels," says Brian. "First of all, its a message from us to each other, its a message to our fans as well and in the case of the actual song its about one particular person, but Im not about to divulge who that is.
"We wrote the rock stuff when we were on tour, and we wrote the more pensive, more downbeat stuff before Christmas in a demo studio in London and I think at that time as our professional lives were shooting out of the stratosphere, our personal lives were kind of falling apart. Theres a very schizophrenic element to this record, and a very extreme one mood- and atmosphere-wise. I think you make a decision at one point in your career as a musician, its about sacrifices, about whether youre prepared to sacrifice emotional stability for achieving a certain career goal. Once you make that decision, make that sacrifice, so much falls by the wayside...".
One of the most poignant moments on the album is My Sweet Prince, which seems to follow in the footsteps of Perfect Day and Golden Brown as a song about drugs dressed up as a love song. But, as Brian explains, "My Sweet Prince vomited itself forth during the time we were demoing the album. Its a very very personal song, and its a song that deals with a lot of very dark emotions and dark situations. Its possibly the most tender and vulnerable thing thats come out of Placebo. Its a very romantic song, and its about the degeneration of a very close relationship, its not really about drugs". Anyone listening to the lyrics about holes in veins and chasing dragons might disagree, but a love song masquerading as a drugs reference pretending to be a love song is a twist on an old idea that could only have come from Placebo, who seem determined to mess with stereotypes at every opportunity. In a musical climate obsessed with Cool Britannia and Union Jack guitars, Placebo are a band with a Swedish bassist and a singer from Luxembourg, something which they see as quite important.
"Were not concerned with one kind of national heritage," says Stefan. "I think were a very European, Cosmopolitan sort of band. London is just the place where the band started, and until Steve [Hewitt, drums] joined there wasnt a British person in the band. I think it opens doors, its a lot of freedom for us".
Brian continues, "It gives us freedom because were not concerned with being the next in line to any Great British Songwriting Tradition, that doesnt interest us in any way. Our influences are pulled from different cultures and different scenes where we grew up, hence our love of disco. It kind of pissed us off when we were framed as this post-Glam Gothcore band, because were far more interested in disco".
What this could mean for either the next album or future film appearances I shudder to think, but as long as Brian keeps coming out with the soundbites, you just know that itll sell. As with all great monsters, Brians creation isnt quite dead, just in case it has to come back in a sequel.
Placebo were talking to Tim Sismey, in October 1998.